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Temple Location Revisited, January 2019

Posted in Prophecy, Temple, Trend Update with tags , , , , , , , , , , , on January 10, 2019 by paulthepoke

Rabbi Harry Moskoff has been digging into the exact location of past Temples. His research and findings are calling into the question the status quo and consensus opinion regarding the exact Temple location.

“At first, I thought it was in the northern end of the Temple Mount,” Rabbi Moskoff.

2 Chronicles 3:1 Then Solomon began to build the house of the LORD in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah, where the LORD had appeared to his father David, at the place that David had prepared on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.

“The verse states that it was on the mountain. It does not specify that it was at the top of the mountain. The Temple was located on a threshing floor bought by King David. These (threshing floors) are not located on mountain tops. In the days of Solomon, the peak of the mountain was located where the Dome of the Rock is.” -Rabbi Moskoff

Oral traditions not found in the Bible state the Temple was not built on what is considered today’s Temple Mount. Oral traditions are consistent with Biblical texts, ancient rabbis, and historians.

2 Samuel 5:7 Nevertheless, David captured the stronghold of Zion, that is the city of David.

The city of David is a specific location within greater Jerusalem. The city of David is located south of what is known as the Temple Mount in modern day Jerusalem. The city of David is down the hill, below, and south of the modern day Temple Mount. The distance between the two locations is approximately 600-1000 feet.

Rabbi Moskoff pointed to the historical account of 12th century Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, aka Maimonides or Ramban. The Rabbi went to the Temple Mount and entered the golden Dome of the Rock. Again, the Dome of the Rock is a top the Temple Mount.

“The Rambam would not have entered the building if he thought it was the location of the Holy of holies,” Moskoff.

Rabbi Moskoff now thinks the Holy of Holies of the Temple is located southwest of the Dome of the Rock.


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First century AD Jewish historian, Flavius Josephus noted the Temple was located below a fortress. The Temple was not located on the top of the mountain. The Temple was located below the Temple Mount and below a recently unearthed fortress.

“…he built a citadel in the lower part of the city, for the place was high, and overlooked the Temple; on which account he fortified it with high walls and towers, and put into it a garrison of Macedonians.” -Flavius Josephus

Historians and books written in the first century say the Temple site was south in the city of David. This is below the modern day Temple Mount area.

Then, there is the issue of water. The only local source of water is the Gihon Spring. It is located south or below the modern day Temple Mount. Remember, these folks did not have access to modern day plumbing. They would have pumped water uphill 1,000 feet to the modern day Temple Mount.

This location south of the modern day Temple Mount would allow for construction of the Temple without interfering with Muslim religious shrines.

Temple Geography…Not One Stone

Posted in Prophecy, Temple, Trend Update with tags , , , , , , , , , , on November 18, 2015 by paulthepoke

Matthew 24:1-2 Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him.  And He said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down.”

Now wait a minute…Modern day (November 2015) Jews go to the Western Wall in Jerusalem and pray. Jews are not allowed to ascend and pray atop the Temple Mount. There are stones stacked one upon another forming a wall. This is the site claimed as the Temple Mount.

If this wall is the site of the Temple, is Jesus wrong? There are clearly stones left upon another. Jesus said, “not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down.”

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Or, was the Temple located in a different area?

What if the Temple was located where the Bible says, near the Gihon Spring?

http://paulthepoke.com/2015/11/11/temple-geography-water-please/

Looking at a picture of the modern day city of David, there is NOTHING present near the Gihon Spring.

Amos 9:11 In that day I will raise up the fallen booth of David, and wall up its breaches; I will also raise up its ruins and rebuild it as in the days of old…

The context of the verse in Amos 9 is the restoration of Israel under the lineage of King David. The Hebrew word for “booth” is succoth. This is the word for the Tabernacle. This is the word used for the Temple, God’s dwelling place.

Amos 9:14-15 Also I will restore the captivity of My people Israel, and they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them; they will also plant vineyards and drink their wine, and make gardens and eat their fruit. I will also plant them on their land, and they will not again be rooted out from their land which I have given them,” Says the LORD your God.

Israel is back in the land and a country since 1948. Cities have been rebuilt. God says they are not going anywhere.

Just waiting on the Temple…

Temple Geography…Water Please!

Posted in Prophecy, Temple with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on November 11, 2015 by paulthepoke

1 Kings 1:33 The king said to them, “Take with you the servants of your lord, and have my son Solomon ride on my own mule, and bring him down to Gihon…”

1 Kings 1:38 So Zadok the priest, Nathan the prophet, Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, the Cherethites, and the Pelethites went down and had Solomon ride on King David’s mule, and brought him to Gihon.

1 Kings 1:45a “Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet have anointed him king in Gihon…”

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The context of the story is King David naming his successor. King David is announcing the successor to be his son Solomon. Three times in the story, Solomon is taken to Gihon. Granted, the temple was yet to be built. The text is clear. The Tabernacle or Tent is located at Gihon. There is only one water source in the area, the Gihon Spring. The spring is located in the city of David south of the modern day Temple Mount.

Note the phrase …and bring him down to Gihonin 1 Kings 1:33. The Hebrew word for “bring him down” is yarad. Per Strong’s Concordance it means: to go down, descend, decline, march down, sink down.

In other words, the Tabernacle was located in an area of lower elevation from David’s place.

Moving forward in time. Solomon built the Temple. He commissioned the Temple to be built in the area of the city of David (2 Chronicles 3:1). See the link below with specifics.

http://paulthepoke.com/2015/11/04/trend-update-temple-city-of-david-november-2015/

Both the Tabernacle and the Temple were built on the only source of water in the area.

1 Kings 7:13 Now King Solomon sent and brought Hiram from Tyre. Hiram’s job…he was filled with wisdom and understanding and skill for doing any work in bronze. So he came to King Solomon and performed all his work (1 Kings 7:14b).

In regards to water containers, the following items were fashioned by Hiram in the Temple.

The most prominent item made was called the Molten Sea or the Brazen Sea. The dimensions of the item are noted below.

1 Kings 7:23 Now he made “the sea” of cast metal ten cubits from brim to brim, circular in form, and its height was five cubits, and thirty cubits in circumference.

2 Chronicles 4:2 Also he made the cast metal sea, ten cubits from brim to brim, circular in form, and its height was five cubits and its circumference thirty cubits.

One cubit is equal to 1.5 feet. The container was 15 feet across, 7.5 feet in height, with a circumference of 45 feet. Scripture says the object could hold 12,000-18,000 gallons (1 Kings 7:26, 2 Chronicles 4:5).

1 Kings 7:38 He made ten basins of bronze, one basin held forty baths; each basin was four cubits, and on each of the ten stands was one basin.

One bath is equal to roughly 9 gallons.

40 baths X 9 gallons = 360 gallons per basin X 10 basins = 3,600 gallons of water.

All told, water requirements are exceeding 21,000 gallons. The volume of water was necessary for ritual cleaning and to clean up after the sacrifices, daily.

Massive amounts of water were observed in the Temple by the Egyptian Aristeas in approximate 275 BC. The Roman Tacitus confirmed a water source inside the Jewish Temple in roughly 100 AD. The Jewish historian Josephus discussed the need for spring water for purification and cleansing at the Temple. Documents from rabbinical priests indicated a ritual bath was necessary before entering the Temple.  www.baseinstitute.org

There is only one source of spring water in Jerusalem. Specifically, it is located in the city of David. It is the Gihon Spring.

By the way, there are future implications… Ezekiel 47:1-2 Then he brought me back to the door of the temple, and behold, water was issuing from below the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east). The water was flowing down from below the south end of the threshold of the temple, south of the altar. Then he brought me out by way of the north gate and led me around on the outside to the outer gate that faces toward the east; and behold, the water was trickling out on the south side.

Joel 3:18b …And a spring will go out from the house of the LORD To water the valley of Shittim.

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